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August 20, 2008

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Sonya

I am attempting to staunchly hold out on the laundry line.

Phil Boncer

I think the main key is to avoid waste. We need not aspire to asceticism. We can have nice things, we can have things that we just want. But our purchases should all be considered, used to their fullest, and not wasted. If we can all achieve something close to this, I think we can make a sustainable world out of it.

PhilB

amanda @ lornas laces

my friend anthony just discovered ikea earlier this week and it lead us to a similar discussion.

i will also say that there are very very few things that cant be cleaned with a big bucket of super hot plain ol' soapy water and some elbow grease (says my super nasty dog hair filled vacuum filter a couple of days ago)

and while im at it...if any of that closet cleaning leads to piles of clothes in the 18-20 size range you keep me in mind ;-)

<3
amanda @ lorna's

meg

Indeed. All this.

Phil Boncer

My first comment was strictly a response to your post, as I hadn't gotten around to actually viewing the "The Story of Sutff" video. I have now done so, and I have to say I was not very impressed.

First, I do agree with the general theme and conclusions that excess consumerism is both wasteful of our world and not a way to create happiness. I also agree with all the recommendations made for mitigating the effects. So overall, I am pretty much on the same side.

But I also thought that the case was presented in a highly biased fashion that did not show the whole story either. Also, there a few claims made that I *very* much doubt are true.

Most specifically, one was about 70 cans of trash generated in manufacturing for every one can post-consumer -- I've had a fair bit of experience in manufacturing, and you can't waste that much material while making stuff and make a profit.

The other was the claim that 99% of manufactured goods are discarded by six months. First of all, durable goods like cars and houses and furniture and major appliances make up far more than 1% of all goods manufactured, and almost all of those will last more then six months. Then, even for smaller goods, go look at a large store like Wal-Mart, aisle by aisle, and count out how much stuff will be discarded in six months and how much is likely to be owned longer. Well over than 1% of that stuff will be around for a couple years at least.

Even if someone has a really good point and a good purpose, it bugs me when they can't present their case openly and honestly; it makes me doubt their credibility and all their claims, and less likely to pay attention to them in the future.

PhilB

Carrie K

My parents attitude towards life has come back into vogue again. Use it up, wear it out, recycle it.

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